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May 22, 2005 9:10:59 GMT -5
Post by whitedog61 on May 22, 2005 9:10:59 GMT -5
this forum was created by a hound hunter for all dog hunter any form or breed of dog hunters are welcome here, many of the readers may not be as fortunate as me to have had grey wolves dumped on you by the goverment, wolves are killing all are deer off and are turning to livestock and pets for a source of food, many hunting dogs across the area have been killed while at the field hunting and now the wolves are comeing into are yards and kennels to kill and eat pets, this site will not support wolf support of any kind but will allow you to vent your opion on wolves, but will not allow your opion if you support wolves killing pets cause its the wolves country, are for fathers and goverment spend a lot of time to kill the wolf off for a reason and the goverment spent a lot of money on bountys to kill off the greay wolves in the united states and its veiwed by this site as a mockery to reintroduce what was and still is a useless vermin and in no way good for are ecosystem, are ecosystem survived for a 100 years just fine with out wolves and will not survive a nother 100 with them, if you can deal with my rules of this subject your welcome to discuss wolves here, have a great day.
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May 22, 2005 12:05:50 GMT -5
Post by vancreek on May 22, 2005 12:05:50 GMT -5
shoot,shovel and shut up,thats all i say,dont understand who benifits allowing them to coexist where it took a hundred years to exterminate them,kinda like bringin cochroachs or fleas into your house,why?
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May 22, 2005 12:38:50 GMT -5
Post by whitedog61 on May 22, 2005 12:38:50 GMT -5
awww, the 3 S's, i mentioned the 3'S's at the dnr wolf meet a week ago and they didnt think it was so funny but the 100 or so people there found it to be a good idea, coarse there was bout 3 to 5 peta, green peace fags there, but i guess they have never had a life or exspet to ever have one lol coarse the golf coarses they golf on mite help to kill off the wolves with all the crap they spray on them , like why the hell cant they leave us alone and go after stuff thats as useless as a golf coarse, golf coarses now thats a waist of habitate if i ever seen it, Oman now i am on the golf coarse thing, this isnt good lol killing wolves on golf coarses i could handle that lol maybe sight the 300 mag in on a couple balls at 500 yards lol you all have a great day.
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May 23, 2005 12:40:59 GMT -5
Post by rwh on May 23, 2005 12:40:59 GMT -5
Anyone know what the M.U.C.C.'s position is on wolves here in Michigan? Don't hear much about Michigan sportsmen groups opposing wolves, yet. Maybe once the deer hunters figure out what's ahppening to Michigan white tails...public opinion will shift. It sure would be interesting if the DNR had to honestly explain what their wolf management program is( they really don't have a plan).
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May 23, 2005 14:38:18 GMT -5
Post by vancreek on May 23, 2005 14:38:18 GMT -5
reading posts on some of the other boards,im baffled that there is a majority of sportsmen who support the wolf issue,i am going to assume they are totally clueless and when it affects their deer hunting will shift blame,although,if we could say relocate all the wolves over 50 and drop them off say south of flint and around detroit,public opinion might be swayed,the worst news is that the dnr manages this issue from a public opinion standpoint,instead of sound biological data,and gov grandhoe could give 2 $hits about those effected as long as her constituents in the cespool are happy.i truely feel as though our democracy fails those of us in rural areas,since as long as the politicians can continue to cater to the majority in the metro areas they will continue to impose their irrational beliefs on on us,why couldnt the up become their own state and manage their own wildlife without the input of lansing?
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May 23, 2005 17:00:10 GMT -5
Post by whitedog61 on May 23, 2005 17:00:10 GMT -5
VC you hit the nail on the head, these people are clueless, they dont live with them and they think from the few pictures they have seen wolves are a majestic animal and should be allowed to live where they are, and us that have to deal with them must be just plain assholes for talking the way we are about them, they say there good for the ecosystyem, well so are whitetail deer and elk and if they eat all the deer and elk then what? no deer and elk what will be next, are children, livestock and pets, if feds dont delist the wolves soon the states will be forced to relocate the wolves else where, i feel the genral public should have no say in wolf management unless they live with them and a nutter thing that pisses me off realy bad is the trapper that killed a wolf in his trap says he thought it was a coyote and they let him off, well up here you say you thought it was a coyote and you get twice the fine and jail time, are dnr is way out of hand they have more power than they ever should have and they abuse it baddly, hell over 50% of the people in the dnr are connected to, peta, green peace and the many other animal rights groups, that dont seem right to me, but know one has ever accused the dnr of ever being right.
DNR= do, nothing, right
DNR= dam, near, russian
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May 23, 2005 20:22:28 GMT -5
Post by houndman on May 23, 2005 20:22:28 GMT -5
There is now a wolf population in Indiana. The DNR released several Red Wolves in southern IN. Last year I was running my beagles and jumped one. It took me about 10 sec. to realize it wasn't a yote or dog. He stopped about 35 yds from me and just stared at me and the dogs, then a couple of stupid pups ran after him until he turned them and chased them back to me. That was the last time I ran without packing my revolver. I will definently use the 3S method the next time I see one. DNR still denies releasing any, and I live in central IN so they have made it northward. There was also a tagged gray wolf shot about 25 mi east of year last year. The collar was from MN. That wolf did some traveling.
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May 24, 2005 18:54:39 GMT -5
Post by whitedog61 on May 24, 2005 18:54:39 GMT -5
sorry to hear the bad news houndman, i wouldnt wish wolves on my worse enemys, there nasty and have no use in are ecosystem, coarse the green peace fags will say they do but cant ever seem to give a good or any reason there good for us, i must add to this that if a wolf is close enuff to hit with a hand gun its too dam close and needs to be put down, most people on the internet that are hunters that tend to stick up for the wolves have no clue what they are about and dont live close to them, as of about 2 weeks ago a lone wolf was spotted in town where i am from and if you read the history of wolf attacks on humans, most all attacks where done by lone wolves, eithers sick or young looking for new ground, either way you look at it there attacks by wolves on humans and if there where no wolves there would be no chance of wolf attacks on humans or there pets, so I say shoot, shovel and shut your mouth, you all have a great day.
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May 25, 2005 15:52:46 GMT -5
Post by Huntin54 on May 25, 2005 15:52:46 GMT -5
some of you know we have a hunting cabin in northern pennsylvania. But I wanted to let you know we also have timber wolves up there. I haven't seen any yet but there has been siteings of them. It the snow this year when we were there, there was a 2 sets of huge dog tracks or wolves tracks. I followed them but they ended up off the property. There is alot of coyotes up there but i heard the wolves will kill the yotes. But the deer population up there had been going done in the past few years. Probably because of the wolves that may be there or because of the coyotes there. I wish coyotes, foxes, and wolves would all die they do nothing for us hunters unless you hunt them. And they really do nothing for us dog hunters because they will kill the dogs if they get a chance.
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May 25, 2005 19:13:38 GMT -5
Post by whitedog61 on May 25, 2005 19:13:38 GMT -5
54 a timber wolf is notheing more than a canadian grey wolf, its the same wolf i hate so much, and there is no chance you could missteak there track for a yote, or a hound, or a fox, a fox is a 8 pound canine and a yote on average is a 25 pound canine, if a fox or a yote was to kill one of my hounds id have to say it had it comeing, my hounds weight around 65 to 80 pounds in shape, i have a lot of friends who run yotes with beagles and get way more yotes than those with yote hounds lol, 54 my friend leave the fox alone and ill back u up on the wolves and yotes, but for most you must inform your friends how worthless wolves are, have a great day young man.
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May 25, 2005 19:58:21 GMT -5
Post by rwh on May 25, 2005 19:58:21 GMT -5
Refering back to the website on wolves posted here several days ago...I'm wondering if the wolves we're encountering in Michigan are hybreds. I've seen maybe a dozen wolves in the past couple years and they've all be 70 lbs. or so. As the wolf site notes, Canadian wolves are bigger with some weighting over 120 lbs. Anyone seen the larger type in Michigan? If we do have the hybreds here...then they would not be protected under the endangered species act.
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May 26, 2005 15:16:14 GMT -5
Post by Huntin54 on May 26, 2005 15:16:14 GMT -5
rwh; are you saying that wolves are proteceted under endangered species act. If they are let me know and does any have a website that has everything that is endangered on it and is upto date.
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May 26, 2005 19:25:48 GMT -5
Post by whitedog61 on May 26, 2005 19:25:48 GMT -5
rwh, some of the wolves i am seeing are well over a 100 pounds, i am thinking some of the ones that look under a 100 are either pups half growin or females, i can tell you first hand the few ive been up realy close to where well over a 100 and they where males lol
54 yes the wolves in the lower 48 are protected by the ESA, the site i have listed here is a extremely anti wolf site and has a ton of good reading, this is put toghether by a well educated man and he has spent alot of his own time and money to fight the goverment on the wolf issue, please read through this site i have posted, i will be posting a nutter site soon, the site i posted is from the genral region i am from, i will be posting a link to a site from out west, that tells how the wolves are killing off all the big game like elk, moose and mule deer, just to mention a few of the game animals getting wiped out by wolves, i hope this helped you some, keep asking question they are very much welcomed here, have a great day.
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May 26, 2005 20:11:45 GMT -5
Post by rwh on May 26, 2005 20:11:45 GMT -5
To Huntin 54 and whitedog...54, to add to what Whitedog said about wolves on the endangered list...last time I checked Michigan DNR claimed 1 out of every 10 Michigan wolves are fitted with a telemetry collar. Some wolves also wear a satellite tracking device with a mortality switch they can monitor without leaving headquarters. If the wolf is motionless over a specific period of time it is an indication the wolf has been killed. They can pinpoint the location. Michigan also has people on the payroll who's job it is to investigate wolf killings (money is no object to these people when it comes to wolves). Some folks throw dead wolves in a river to confuse the investigators. Whitedog...thanks for the info on the 100+ lb. critters. Wolf managers do their best to scare people into thinking they'll get caught if they shoot a wolf. The scare tactic has kind of backfired, leading to people gut shooting the wolf so they wander off and there's no evidence leading them back to the shooter.
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May 26, 2005 21:08:44 GMT -5
Post by Huntin54 on May 26, 2005 21:08:44 GMT -5
rwh, and whitedog Great idea about gut shooting them. And thanks for the replies.
Whitedog, I read all of the info on the website you posted very good info too.
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